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Never There (50) |
Appologies, this is the code for the above post
<frameset ROWS="100%,*" FRAMESPACING=0 FRAMEBORDER=0 BORDER=0> <frame SRC="http://www.amazon.co.uk" NAME=FWDSITE SCROLLING="AUTO" NORESIZE FRAMEBORDER=0 BORDER=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0 MARGINWIDTH=0> </frameset> |
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Insidiously Invisible (400) |
I did try this and the site did get listed however -- it did not hide it from the cache.
Let me know if you have different resuts. Rick |
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Hazy (15) |
The code posted by sdrweb works with no scroll bars, but, is there any way to use the frames directing the cloaked page to my site, but with the address of my site on the address bar (i.e. it appears the tripod one)?
CF |
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| <bob>
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Is there any reason to use this if you
use SEC template. If yes where do you place it in templates |
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Indiscernible (100) |
quote: What kind of java script are you using, can you share it? and where should I place it. Thanks, Romino ROMINO |
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Indiscernible (100) |
quote: Hello jcaviani, Thanks for the scripts!! Please tell me how to use them... Which of the 3 you post, would you recommend for SEC? Since I am using static pages, should i place the script within the HTML? If I use these scripts, there is no need to use the meta "<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOARCHIVE">" right? Can I place the script in the "Cloaked Pre-Header" in the Advanced Config area? Any other ideas on how to avoid being caught by the SE? Thanks! Romino ROMINO |
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Indiscernible (100) |
BTW Guys,
Take a look at this: http://www.seotoolkit.co.uk/http_viewer.asp Peter, you should take a peak too. Romino ROMINO |
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Insidiously Invisible (400) |
This is why you should make your cloaked pages look like doorway pages or like your regular website by using regular html in the add-on templates feature.
And if you don't have templates add-on: You can also make sensible sentences by changing your "filler" and "operative" words under the keyword section of the cloaker console. Rick I am requesting that no one contact me in regards to cloaking tutorials. The forum is giving to much recognition to cloaking techniques and its implementation. Please contact Peter Bray with any questions or advice on cloaking. I am glad that I could give any assistance in the past and hope it helped everyone. |
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Ultra Visible (0) |
Peter question - wher exactly does one use the example for the iframe?
Im using advanced templates, so would that be under parag<<Current Paragraph Templates>> towards the bottom of the page? thx |
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Indiscernible (100) |
quote: Hello Jcaviani, If I add the script above to my static pages, won't the script instantly redirect the search engine to the page in the scriptname.js file and index that page instead of the cloaked page? I am not really sure how this works, and I would like to know so I can use it with my static pages. Also, a question on the page served to the IE user. Should I add a NOINDEX tag to the page served to the user, so that only cloaked page are indexed? Thanks, Romino ROMINO |
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Blurry (20) |
If they really want to see your SourceCode, they can do it this way:
view-source:http://www.searchenginecloaker.com |
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Blurry (20) |
Peter --> heheh if I was one tech guy at Google than I had a very simple solution against cloakers, I just would just buy a license for SEC and other software and do some research, what I would do against SEC cloakers is easy: just letting the Google spider check if there is a Perlfile: manage.pl or stuffer.pl in the cgi-bin folder if there is a cgi-bin folder, than they got you.
Maybe you can do something about this, so that the SEC users can change all the Perlfile names from the SEC managementpanel in once. |
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Indiscernible (100) |
That sounds like an excellent idea!
ROMINO |
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Blurry (20) |
In response to ROBUSTUS' view source trick:
I believe that would only show the source code of the page that the "real" user would be seeing, not the cloaked page... It is basically the same thing as using View>Source. --- In response to renaming manage.pl: I asked Peter about this a couple of weeks ago and he said it is in the plan to allow users to rename that file for that very reason. Although, I'm not certain that Google would actually take those steps because many other management consoles also use a manage.pl file in their cgi-bin for managing other types of backend areas. If they were to take that step they would also be penalizing non-cloakers in the process and that isn't something I think they would do. I really do not feel that there is a huge anti-cloaking effort going on by Google or any other SE. I feel that most banning and penalizing will be done to those who go overboard and get turned in by multiple people for unethical operations. However things change online pretty quickly. I'm curious as to what the future has in store for cloaking. I doubt that there will be a major SE effort to stop it anytime soon unless it would get to the point where it is seriously damaging the End User (such as email spamming does). In certain cases it already does and has for a long time (ie, the porn industry) but I don't see a major issue with it in most other areas. |
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Indiscernible (100) |
I have tried this script, but it won't work for me. Any knows what could be the problem?
Romino quote: ROMINO |
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| <will>
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This tread is really great... but I got totally confused.
Can somebody get the final word for me: how I hide the cloacked content when I do not want to use NONARCHIVE, but I am using templates? It is as simple question as it can be. What code should I place and where using the SEC? Thanks for response.... Will...(so far) 1/2 star member. |
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Indiscernible (100) |
I used this code...
<iframe style="position: absolute; top: 0px;left: 0px" src="http://www.your-domain-here.com" width=100% height=100%> in the head section as awicked described it. Tested it and it works great (as far as cache goes). As to iframes, they are all over the web for legitimate purposes (they can do things frames can't and vice versa) so I can't see how that's a red flag. Can anyone else see how? |
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Inconspicuous (10) |
I've just tried the following
quote: and it works perfectly for me - no scroll bars, it looks just like the page you divert your human visitors to. For those who have problems using this script - it most likely is because you don't link to it correctly in the header. (For example if you upload "scriptname.js" to the top level directory - usually public_html - make sure you replace quote: with quote: Obviously you can also change the name (scriptname.js) to whatever you want provided you link to it correctly. |
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| <removing the cache I have done this...>
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Hi All
To remove the cache from Google and others simply use the meta tags below, it works for me...Add this to your pre header and viola, no cache: look below. I added three *** nnext to the no-cache area. I have worked for years o webmarketing and receivetems of thousands of visitors per day. With peters script as well as adding a little pay per click to non cloaked pages i was able to also get stadard url's to the top. Ranking 18,000 in alexa for over a year until I added redirects from other links which swewed my ranking. Add the no-cache meta content tag and you will remove the cached page moving forward. The old links are still there and nothing you can do but moving forward you will do much better. Feel free to R&D my meta tags below (rip off and duplicate) for your website too. I removed the keywords I use so all you need to do is copy and paste these to your nbotepad program to convert it to functioning code and then add your data and paste into your head of each page including the preheader of the cloak... The key to web and brick and mortar matrketing is to research what the fortune 500 and 1000 companies are doing since they spend hundreds of thousands on market research. Then just R & D their ideas using their market research (rip off and duplicate) Good luck, James M V.P Of Business Development Midway Utilities Clearwater, Florida ~~~~~~~~~~~~META TAGS BELOW~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <meta name="generator" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0"> <meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document"> <title>Wholesale To The Public Central Heating and Air SAVE THOUSANDS FREE SHIPPING DIRECT</title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> <meta name="Title" content="BUY WHOLESALE TO THE PUBLIC CENTRAL HEATING AND AIR WITHOUT A CONTRACTOR. SHIOPPING DIRECT TO THE CONSUMER IN AS LITTLE AS THREE DAYS FROM ORDER. SAVE THOUSANDS NOW. BUY DIRECT." /> <meta name="Publisher" content="Corporate" /> <meta name="Date" content="2001-2005" /> <meta name="Keywords" content="air conditioning, central air conditioners, central air conditioning, Central air conditioners, amana air conditioners, air conditioners, ductless air conditioners,Goodman air conditioning, Goodman air conditioners, ductless air conditioning, central air conditioning system, ductless air conditioners, ductless ac, central air conditioning manufacturer, A/C units, Air Conditions, central air conditioning unit, Central Air Conditioning, amana air conditioning, install central air conditioning, ac contractor, air conditioner contractor, air conditioner parts, mini split, mini splits, mini-splits, mini-split, high Velocity Air Conditioning, split system air conditioners, ductless air conditioners, Amana, Geo Thermal, janitrol, Janitrol, Goodman, Cooling, Amana, amana, Amana Furnaces, amana furnaces, amana equipment, Amana Equipment, Air Conditioners, Air Conditioning, air conditioning, Heat Pump, house flagpoles, advertising flags, heat pump, heating contractor, free estimate, service call, Service Call, literature, duct design, Duct Design, Design Services, design, do it yourself central heating cooling air conditioning conditioners equipment supplies parts prices pricing installation tips high efficiency Carrier York Goodman Janitrol Rheem condensing units heat pumps gas furnaces air handlers package units ductwork thermostats electronic air cleaners humidifiers,Wholesale air conditioning, wholesale air,book,book on air conditioning,window units,window air conditioners,window unit, cooling system,Do It Yourself,Guide,Pool Heat Pump, heat pump, pool, mini-splits,ducts,bryant,trane,ruud,rheem,oil furnace,heat, Installation guide, book, best, cheap, contractor,trane, ruud, carrier, bryant, lennox,Wholesaler,Dealer, Gas Furnace,wholesale gas furnace,gas furnaces,wholesale air conditioner,air conditioner,Ruud, wholesale condensor,wholesale compressor, wholesale heat pump,A coil,window unit,wall unit,Heat Pump,wall unit, Air Conditioner, tempstar, furnace, coil, cooling, wholesale air conditioning, air conditioning, central air conditioner, compressor, air handler,Duct Cleaner, filters, duct system, condensor, package unit, freon,air conditioner compressor,air handler unit,condensor,a/c compressor,tempstar furnace,carrier air condition,home heating furnace,ac system,ductless air conditioner,air conditioner maintenance,electric pool heater,wholesale furnace,air conditioning compressor,electrostatic furnace filter, Central Air Conditioner Dealer, central air conditioner dealer, Central Air Conditioner Distributor, central air conditioner distributor, Amana Central Air Conditioner, amana central air conditioner, Central Air Conditioner Price, central air conditioner price, Best Central Air Conditioner, best central air conditioner,fireplace door, fireplace glass door, glass fireplace door, fireplace screen, glass fireplace screen, decorative, air conditioner, air plan, heat, heater" /> <meta name="classification" content="Consumer" /> <meta name="Document Type" content="Plain Text" /> <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="ALL"/> <meta name="robots" content="INDEX FOLLOW"> <meta name="Audience" content="Public" /> <meta name="generic1" content="Corporate Information" /> <meta name="Brand" content="Wholesale Air Conditioning" /> <meta name="generic3" content="gas furnaces goodman" /> <meta name="generic4" content="All" /> <meta name="language" content="English"> <meta name="doc-type" content="Public"> <meta name="doc-class" content="Completed"> <meta name="doc-rights" content="Public"> <meta name="revisit-after" CONTENT="1 days" /> <meta http-equiv="pragma" content="no-cache" /> <meta name="Author" content="james McClow"/> <meta name="resource-type" content="document"> <meta name="generator" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0"> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="stylesheet.css"> |
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Inconspicuous (10) |
You completely missed the point!
This thread is not about the no archive meta tag!  |
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| <hurl>
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this seems to work. Completely eliminates the scrolling ability of the page.
<iframe style="position: absolute; top: 0px;left: 0px" src="http://yopage" width=100% height=100% border="0" frameborder="no" scrolling="no"> |
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Ultra Visible (0) |
Do avoid the scrollbar and visible frame with an iframe use the following:
<iframe style="position: absolute; top: 0px;left: 0px" src="http://www.your-domain-here" width=100% height=100% marginwidth=0 marginheight=0 frameborder="NO" scrolling="NO"> |
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| <jh3000>
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you are absolutely right. This strategy is well known by search engines and is likely to either get you caught, or at least at the minimum reduce page relevance. The frame stratgey has long been abused to hid keywords and if the SE spiders see this type of code, they won't like it. They tend to not like frames in general anyway and this is why. I am new to cloaking strategies, hoever none of this is at all a secret. I am suprised it was suggested. |
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Chief Justice TOTAL ECLIPSE (2500)  |
Cloaker doesn't use the iframe option... I simply mentioned it as another way to obscure the cloaked content from real users...
Peter |
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